Jungian and Freudian Astrology: Part 2

1331159Freud was incredibly deep in his psychology as he discussed the stuff inside that we are very good at keeping a lid on (Freud was also a Scorpio rising). Freud played the role of the Prince of Psychiatric Darkness. Freud likened the conscious mind as a lock on a great city. The unconscious is painted as being an underground and ancient realm with unexamined memory in darkness.

The psychologist described the subconscious mind like a horse and the ego, or the consciousness, as its rider. The unconscious represents the complex parts of us. Sometimes we don’t know what we do, but we are doing it. There are only a few of us, who can understand our behavior fully.

All the water houses in astrology represent the belly of the unconscious from the personal to the collective, and ruling our psychic history. It can be a hostile place, and sometimes the consciousness can feel like an unwelcome visitor to this underground world. Freud famously pictured the unconscious as an iceberg and what we see of any individual is usually just the tip of the iceberg, there is a whole lot more below the surface.

Arthur Dione used an interesting analogy that is similar to the Iceberg and describes the deep underground nature of the unconscious.

The analogy of the ‘pretty’ garden serves to illustrate man’s efforts to implant certain qualities into conscious awareness, thus building a self-image with which he feels safe and one that is palatable to his parents, associates, friends and lovers. Any inner urge that is squashed lest one run the risk of reproach from others, does not disappear, but remains down there, underneath that ‘lovely garden’ which we are pleased to show off. These natural instincts grow and collect qualities of their own, forming a second personality that Jung called the shadow.” Jungian Birth Charts: How to Interpret the Horoscope Using Jungian Psychology (Aquarian Astrology Handbook)

The watery elements (Cancer/4th/Moon, Scorpio/8th/Pluto, and Pisces/12th/Neptune) of the unconscious represent the instinctual side of the personality. The primitive instincts thought to be responsible for rape, murder and bestial nature. Liz Greene’s research on psychopaths in Dark of the Soul: Psychopathology in the Horoscope, squarely pointed the finger at the water-logged nativities for psychopathy. On another note, many individuals that act out violently, often possess a Mars-Saturn and/or Mars-Pluto aspect. Both Saturn and Pluto relate to the shadow side of human beings.

In The Outer Planets and Their Cycles: The Astrology of the Collective (Lectures on modern astrology) a diagram is used to represent the three levels of consciousness.

  1. The top layer representing the individual personality “in a sense you might say astrologically, the sun, the moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and the four angles of the chart concern the energies and needs and characteristics that belong to the individual.
  2. Under this is the personal unconscious “there is all the material from childhood, parental complexes, repressed traumas and wounds, buried emotions, unlived potentials, undeveloped talents.” The author place Saturn on this threshold between the light and dark sides of the personality.
  3. The lowest region is the place of collective unconscious –Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

Jung was also drawn to causality and synchronicity. Simply meaning an accausal connection between the psyche and outer events. The inner and outer connecting and relation to physical events we call coincidence. Events coincide, one does not cause the other. Examples of synchronicity below:

  1. The stopping of a clock at the time of someone’s death.
  2.  Thinking of a friend and then receiving a phone call from that person at the same time.
  3. You walk into a book store not knowing what to buy, and the book you need falls from a shelf and practically hits you over the head. More examples found on Crystalinks


Jung had defined synchronicity as a ”physically conditioned relativity of space and time.” To the modern way of thinking, if there is anything at all in astrology, it must involve a rearrangement of our concept of time. The Australian astrologer Furz Morrish writes (in a comment on Jung): “It seems, indeed, as though time…is a concrete continuum which contain qualities of basic conditions manifesting simultaneously in various places in a way not to be explained by causal parallelisms.” Synchronicity (or, as Morrish calls it, synchronism ) might “help some scientists to understand how astrology could work without any mechanical apparatus linking star and human.” On the other hand, he does allow that there may be “astro-causation” between planets and persons, possibly by waves through the ether .Astrology

A chapter in The Astrology of Fate is devoted to Fate and Synchronicity, covering Jung’s outlook on the unconscious, with a fascinating discussion of secret patterns at work and “something”  which guides the individual towards destiny. Mainly, the author, Liz Greene, ties the soul and fate together and explores our inner needs reflecting our outer life.

In the end,  both Jungian and Freudian astrology are worth exploring and are incredibly fascinating when applied to astrology, giving our art even greater depth and meaning and moving away from ancient times of mostly predictive astrology. We explore the inner-complexity of every individual and in the process, we offer whole lot more soul and expression to a horoscope reading.


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