Neptune in the 4th House

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When Neptune in the 4th house it is placed in the personal space of the horoscope representing their inner feelings, and it also has a linkage to the past, family, and close relatives. The hazy mist of Neptune surrounds the home, and the early roots of life don’t always provide a solid base. This can reveal itself in a variety of ways and the home can be chaotic and disorganized especially with squares to Neptune in this position as it can be challenging to create the sea of tranquility often longed for. Moreover, according to The Vanilla Astrologer, “sometimes Neptune here points to a big family secret or a parent who was an invalid or seriously handicapped. A lot of the time its alcoholism or even mental illness in one of the parents or in the family heritage. Sometimes its just a very murky situation.”

The formative years are sometimes colored by a great deal of confusion and it’s difficult to see a parent in a clear, realistic light. Often, there are deep, emotional and nebulous feelings surrounding the father or childhood is veiled under a web of confusion and misunderstandings. The 4th house relates to nurturing and security and here the longing to be protected by the unity of life (Neptune) is powerful. A longing to remain in the comforting arms of childhood is another manifestation, and if there are trines to a fourth house Neptune there will often be an all too comfortable feeling of emotional well being. Many times the difficult aspects to Neptune usually mean there is always a nagging discontent at home, and perhaps a feeling that things don’t live up their ideal picture of home and family.

In An Astrology Book for Beginners it says:

With Neptune in the 4th house, there will be strong unconscious emotional ties to the home and family that are karmic in nature. People with Neptune in the 4th House often live near water and have strong feelings for the land and nature. Family secrets and mysteries surrounding aspects of home life are common. These people have a deep desire to mother the world and often bring strays and strangers into their homes. An afflicted Neptune can cause confused family relationships and a chaotic domestic environment. Neurosis from difficulties with parents and other family members can arise, and emotionally based nervous disorders that are difficult to diagnose may develop later in life.

Ultimately, Neptune in the 4th house will search for the ideal home, they wish they had or believe they’d when they were a child. Finding inner peace and a sense of security, serenity and belonging are important to them. Neptune here also shows a deep fragility at the base of the personality and it may not always be obvious in ‘tougher horoscopes,’ but it still exists and forms the base of their inner selves. In the end, Neptune longs to rise above earthly reality and feel something more uplifting. The placement of the planet often shows where we want to feel a deeper emotional connection because maybe something here was lost. Sadly, it may be the father who is physically absent (since this house rules over this parent) through separation, divorce or death, and this position represents some form elusiveness and inaccessibility. There can also be a deep sadness surrounding him, and he may be unobtainable to them physically and/or psychologically. Usually, there is an unconscious over-idealization of this fatherly figure, and on some level, a solid relationship with him has been sacrificed. The father may be artistic or might have even held dreams that went unfulfilled. Another possibility is that he might have been experienced as weak or disappointing in some way. More positively, sometimes a gentleness and ethereal quality are terms used to describe the father. This placement of Neptune also often shows sensitivity towards a parent, and they may have deep empathy for his suffering. A parent shown by Neptune might describe someone who is ill or addicted to alcohol/drugs, and so the nurturing element is hard to obtain if a parent is caught up in the negative hang-ups of Neptune’s world. Neptune has a powerful hold on the parent, and the victim/savior archetype also falls close to home, so they might have wished they could have saved the parent from suffering. Neptune rules redemption in astrology and these individuals may have an emotional need to redeem the father. The father may have also faced early retirement from his career (opposite 10th) through ill health.

Depending on how heavily aspected Neptune is in the 4th house, there can be soul weariness and depressing feeling in the family home. Often feelings of disillusionment, disappointment or deep discontentment surround. Neptune here epresents the search for a spiritual home and dreams of finding the perfect resting place, away from the demand of reality. Often it can take some time before the dream to materialize, and sometimes it will always remain a fantasy. With watery Neptune in the “home,” these individuals need to watch out for floods, springing leaks and make sure the foundations are stable. Those with Neptune in this house may even have to give up and sacrifice the home. Wherever they live, a Neptunian home needs to be a spiritual and restful place, and the dream home can only appear once they have worked through nebulous feelings from the past.

Another thing to watch out for is Neptune’s slippery boundaries and its around deception. These natives are prone to be gullible and invite (out of sympathy or pity) others to stay in their home, so be aware of those taking advantage of such kind hospitality. Those who have alcohol and drug problems or illness could mistake kindness and sympathy for weakness and take them for granted. Too many great sacrifices can be made on behalf of someone who is inhabiting their personal space. Sometimes those with Neptune in 4th house experience strange, mysterious and even weird events happening at home. Moreover, they may enjoy exploring spiritual subjects and be absorbed in artistic endeavors, music and inspirational thoughts all from the comfort of their sweet abode. Sometimes this placement, if other factors agree, may be a bit of a hermit at home and it is used as their escape from reality. The real aim of this placement, though, is to feel spiritually secure from the inside and let that feeling light them up. The home is merely a reflection of the beauty and tranquility that can really exist within, and once this inner harmony is found it will magically transform their home and family life.

3 Replies to “Neptune in the 4th House”

  1. Hi Julie,

    I have read this article of yours with great intensity. And I love the fact that you are a student of astrology and participate in it full time…having said that I had it in my mind's eye to do the same and it’s just a matter of time I guess.

    I want your comments on this position of mine, just to have a better perspective about my fourth house. I have Uranus in Sagittarius at 3.18 and Neptune in Sagittarius 25.07 both in the fourth house and cusp of the 4th house is ruled by Scorpio.

    I have read many articles on this house but I want to know how anyone else would interpret it…in a manner of discussion. Please give your take on it, I would much appreciate it.

    Thanks..

  2. Hi Julie,
    Thanks for writing such a great article! I'm really concerned about my daughter. She has Neptune and Uranus in the 4th house squaring her Sun and Mer (both Scorpio) in the 1st house. On top of that, Neptune is opposing her Leo moon in the 10th house and Uranus is opposing Saturn in her 11th house. She just turned 'One' and I'm already dreading what's going to happen with her dad. My husband is such a great husband/father and I can't imagine our lives without him.
    I've done a composite chart with the two of them and there is a lot of 12th house planets with squares and oppositions showing power struggles. It seems impossible that my husband could have that kind of relationship with his daughter…he is so kind and patient, so I'm really confused!
    Are there indicators to show the possibility of divorce between the two of us that could lead to this kind of 'friction'with father and daughter?
    Thanks so much in advance!

  3. Thank you so much Julie! I will take your advice and just be happy with what I have and live in the 'present'. You're right, I am very blessed and I need to embrace that and stop worrying and focusing on "what if?"

    I'm glad you brought up Liz Greene's report as well. I've been thinking about ordering it but I thought it was the standard computer report.

    Thanks again for your insight…I absolutely love this site!
    Merry Christmas to you too and Happy New Year!
    Helena

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